Laura Lundquist

(Missoula Current) Few congressional senators can sit between a rock star and a vlogger and hold their own in front of hundreds of people. But what Jon Tester lacks in hipness, he makes up for with humor and honesty, and that clearly appealed to the crowd of about 400 that gathered in the Wilma Theater on Wednesday evening to hear Tester team up with Pearl Jam bassist Jeff Ament for a one-on-one discussion.

It was actually a two-on-one discussion, as science communicator and YouTube vlogger Hank Green was recruited to moderate the hour-long conversation about Montana, the changes taking place in the state and what the two natives of Big Sandy, Montana, consider important to ensure a bright future.

Tester with his flattop haircut and Ament with his trucker hat may be a generation apart, but it was clear from their answers that they see eye-to-eye on many issues and have collaborated a number of times since Tester first ran for the U.S. Senate in 2006.

The casual nature of the event was established early when a member of the crowd shouted at Tester as he took the stage, wishing him a happy birthday. Unprompted, the audience broke into the birthday song as Tester beamed and then looked around for his microphone, which he’d sat on. Unfazed, he joked about certain sounds the microphone might have picked up.

Green started with a few softball questions, asking the two men what they tell people about Montana as they travel and what they like about living in a rural area.

Tester, who had spent the day harvesting his fields before driving to Missoula, said living in a rural area can have downsides - everyone knows what you’re doing and there isn’t much for younger people to do - but it allows you to get to know your neighbors and to establish enduring friendships.

“I don’t know if that happens anywhere but in rural America because of moving and family pressures. I really value those relationships you build,” Tester said. “The sense of community and making sure that people are taken care of.”

Ament said he loves Montana’s terrain, from the overlook along Highway 93 North looking toward the Mission Mountains or driving past Loma and over the hill looking toward the Bears Paw Mountains. He said seeing certain places prompts a feeling a great relief, and that’s what brought him back to Montana once his career with Pearl Jam was established.

“In terms of telling people about Montana, I don’t tell them much,” Ament said, prompting laughter from the audience. “I purposely don’t want my band guys moving back here.”

Pearl Jam in Missoula in 2018. (Missoula Current file photo)
Pearl Jam in Missoula in 2018. (Missoula Current file photo)
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Pearl Jam might not be moving to Montana, but plenty of other people have, especially since the pandemic. Green asked how regular people can afford to buy a house in Montana with prices having been pushed so high. As of July, Montana has the fifth highest median home price in the nation of $672,000, according to the National Association of Realtors.

Tester said the demand was greater than the supply, so he would create tax credits for developers who build affordable housing to increase the supply. But the problem goes beyond just housing. Tester said he’d also encourage policies that make college education more affordable because graduates can’t afford down-payments on houses if they’re carrying too much debt from education loans.

“College is insanely expensive. Part of the reason is because education is seen by policy makers like me as not a public good but a personal good so the person has to pay most of the cost. When, in fact, it is both,” Tester said.

Green asked Tester if it felt like things have gotten worse since he was first elected in 2006. Tester said it has definitely gotten worse since the Supreme Court ruled in favor of Citizens United in 2010, a decision that opened the floodgates for money in politics and which ramped up the production of divisive and increasingly dishonest political ads.

“I can’t even tell you how much money is going to be spent on this race,” Tester said. “And the sad part is (the ads are) not making the electorate better informed. They do their damned-level best to make me into something I’m not, that’s what they do. We have to push back. We have to make sure we’ve got good people who know who I am that are able to push back. But it’s gotten a lot worse. And I don’t know where it stops.”

Ament is one of the notable people who knows who Tester is. Ament and his bandmates also care about social causes and put their money where their mouths are, which is why they scheduled one of their Dark Matter Tour concerts in Missoula to raise money for Tester’s campaign.

Green pointed out that, instead of using its power and fame to effect change, Pearl Jam could just reap the profits. So why did the band choose to do things like register people to vote at its concerts, support access to abortion and promote rural communities?
“We’re at a tipping point in this country, and capitalism is starting to win,” Ament said. “We have to start paying attention to teaching kids to do something they love and to be involved with their community and that giving is better than receiving.”

Pointing out that Tester played the trumpet and Ament, obviously, plays bass, Green asked if they would ever jam out together. Tester said he’d need a little time to get his chops back in shape since he doesn’t play much anymore, but it would be “frickin’ amazing.” The audience roared when Green suggested they set a date for six years from now, referring to the next time Tester would run for reelection.

Ending with a final serious question, Green asked Tester what was at stake in this election. Tester said the presidential race was the most important one since it would be the test for democracy, decency and the future of the country.

“There are a lot of things going on in this world and you’ve gotta have leadership that knows how to bring people together so they can work together to find solutions. That doesn’t mean you compromise your values, that doesn’t mean you do stupid shit. That means you bring people together to get them on the same page to solve problems. That’s at stake,” Tester said.

Montana's future is on the line in this election, too. So it is important for those who would lead Montana to know what Montana is and what Montanans value, Tester said. Tester’s opponent, Tim Sheehy, has said he would support transferring public lands to the state and privatizing healthcare. Tester said that would result in closing rural facilities, such as the medical centers in Big Sandy and Chester.

“The person who said that doesn’t know Montana,” Tester said. “The truth is, if that’s the way you feel, you’re going to vote that way.”

Wednesday night’s conversation was the first function of two days of Pearl Jam events. On Thursday afternoon, Pearl Jam is sponsoring a free community festival in the tailgate area of the University of Montana from 2-5 p.m. Then the Pearl Jam concert begins at 7 p.m. in Washington-Grizzly Stadium.

Contact reporter Laura Lundquist at lundquist@missoulacurrent.com.